Oppo-Zen

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08/06/2019 at 16:36 • Filed to: None

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Just finished, worth a read..  Funny as I haven’t read the original yet, but this one gives a ton of backstory and details, and still tells a trip report.

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DISCUSSION (16)


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > vicali
08/06/2019 at 16:53

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The original book, Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance, is the only book that I've ever tried and failed to read multiple times. The travel descriptions are fine, but some of those "chautauquas" about Quality just sort of lost me. It's been a long time, maybe I should try again.


Kinja'd!!! vicali > Chuckles
08/06/2019 at 16:55

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I’ve heard that it can be a difficult read, and most people give it a few tries it seems.


Kinja'd!!! atfsgeoff > Chuckles
08/06/2019 at 17:01

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Fuck that quality conundrum bullshit. He goes on and on for chapters about that, convinced that ‘quality’ is impossible to define. I stopped reading it after like 30 pages of that.


Kinja'd!!! Chuckles > atfsgeoff
08/06/2019 at 17:08

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I tried, but it just got too abstract for me. I enjoyed the road tripping segments though.


Kinja'd!!! Sovande > Chuckles
08/06/2019 at 17:12

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It’s a terrible book. You don’t have to read it. It is nothing but a couple hundred page masturbatory exercise cloaked as a deep dive into something resembling philosophy but which is actually just pretense and self congratulatory horse shit . There is nothing deep or spiritual or even vaguely interesting about it.  There is a motorcycle, however. 


Kinja'd!!! Sovande > vicali
08/06/2019 at 17:12

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Skip the original. It sucks. 


Kinja'd!!! vicali > Sovande
08/06/2019 at 17:15

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Hot take! thanks


Kinja'd!!! vicali > Sovande
08/06/2019 at 17:18

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It sounds like his next book Lila only gets worse..

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But Mark Richardson the writer of this book has another about driving the Trans - Canada;

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Kinja'd!!! Pickup_man > Chuckles
08/06/2019 at 17:20

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I’m reading it for the first time right now and yeah, most of the “chautauquas” are really difficult. I find myself blasting through the trip portions but slogging through the rest. I know I’ll read through this book again someday, and maybe some more life experience will help me grasp some of these things better? 


Kinja'd!!! Pickup_man > vicali
08/06/2019 at 17:31

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I’m reading the original right now and it’s a surprisingly difficult read. By the looks of the comments it sounds like a lot of people have the same issues with it that I do. Regardless , I’m enjoying parts of it and will finish the book. This is one of the few books that I anticipate reading multiple times, somewhat in the hopes that as I get older some of the “lessons” and “insights” might make some more sense? Maybe, maybe not. 


Kinja'd!!! Sovande > Pickup_man
08/06/2019 at 17:36

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No amount of life experience will make this book worth anything other than kindling or a way to prop up a window AC unit. It's a pretentious bunch of nonsense. 


Kinja'd!!! Sovande > vicali
08/06/2019 at 17:37

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I wouldn’t read a book that had a forward written by Pirsig.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > vicali
08/07/2019 at 00:36

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The book inspired me to buy a bike so I could maintain it.  Turns out the book isn’t really about that.  Despite the title.


Kinja'd!!! vicali > VincentMalamute-Kim
08/07/2019 at 11:10

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Lol, I’ve heard that some libraries and bookstores filed it in the mechanics section with all the Chilton service manuals.. I picture someone with there bike in pieces really scratching their head..


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > vicali
08/07/2019 at 11:23

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Contrary to the opinions here, I actually liked the book.  Early scenes are from the University of Chicago where I went.  That might have something to do with it.


Kinja'd!!! VincentMalamute-Kim > Pickup_man
08/07/2019 at 11:23

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I liked it.